05/21/23 - Munya Andrews, Malcolm Burn (Repeat)
This week we're revisiting Tiokasin Ghosthorse's conversation with Munya Andrews and his discussion on greed with Malcolm Burn. The original episode aired on April 10, 2022.
Munya Andrews is an Indigenous woman from the Kimberley region of Western Australia. Born to an Aboriginal woman and Scottish father, she is proud of her Aboriginal and Celtic heritage. Her Bardi 'saltwater' people come from the Dampier Peninsula and the offshore islands north of Broome. Regarded by Melbourne University as a "leading Australian thinker," Munya is an accomplished author and barrister with degrees in anthropology and law. Educated in Australia and the United States, she is fascinated by comparative religions, languages, mythology and science, and is intrigued by the way in which they interact and inform each other. Munya’s book, "Journey into Dreamtime," is an easy guide to Aboriginal spirituality that explains Dreamtime concepts in a simple way. Munya's life purpose is to create better understanding and appreciation of Aboriginal people, leaving behind a legacy of Dreamtime wisdom for generations to come. Munya's long term vision is to create a fairer, more inclusive Australian society, which recognizes and pays respect to its First Nations people.
Following Tiokasin’s talk with Munya, he and Malcolm Burn, FVR’s show engineer and host of “The Long Way Around” on Radio Kingston, discuss “greed,” while contemplating the title of the closing song, “Everybody Wants to Rule the World.” Tiokasin asks, "How does one get to rule the world?" Answer: "By turning your back on Mother Nature/Mother Earth." Following this train of thought, Tiokasin talks about greed, which he says is a “being,” a “value” that many people in the U.S. and Western Hemisphere don’t understand. What if greed had a “cost”; what if one had to “pay” something for greed? Malcolm says that "we live in a culture where greed is kind of celebrated and is expected on a certain level —turn on the television and everyone wants more of everything, bigger this, bigger that, more; our culture is consumer based." Both agree that greed is a characteristic of the wasicu and the windigo (the one who is never satisfied). Tiokasin says there is no ceremony to accept greed intelligently. Greed is a being. How is it treating you and how are you treating it?
Production Credits:
Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer
Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer
Malcolm Burn, Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston, WKNY 1490 AM and 107.9 FM, Kingston, NY
Manuel Blas, Engineer, Radio Kingston, WKNY 1490 AM and 107.9 FM, Kingston, NY
Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor
Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor
Music Selections:
Munya Andrews is an Indigenous woman from the Kimberley region of Western Australia. Born to an Aboriginal woman and Scottish father, she is proud of her Aboriginal and Celtic heritage. Her Bardi 'saltwater' people come from the Dampier Peninsula and the offshore islands north of Broome. Regarded by Melbourne University as a "leading Australian thinker," Munya is an accomplished author and barrister with degrees in anthropology and law. Educated in Australia and the United States, she is fascinated by comparative religions, languages, mythology and science, and is intrigued by the way in which they interact and inform each other. Munya’s book, "Journey into Dreamtime," is an easy guide to Aboriginal spirituality that explains Dreamtime concepts in a simple way. Munya's life purpose is to create better understanding and appreciation of Aboriginal people, leaving behind a legacy of Dreamtime wisdom for generations to come. Munya's long term vision is to create a fairer, more inclusive Australian society, which recognizes and pays respect to its First Nations people.
Following Tiokasin’s talk with Munya, he and Malcolm Burn, FVR’s show engineer and host of “The Long Way Around” on Radio Kingston, discuss “greed,” while contemplating the title of the closing song, “Everybody Wants to Rule the World.” Tiokasin asks, "How does one get to rule the world?" Answer: "By turning your back on Mother Nature/Mother Earth." Following this train of thought, Tiokasin talks about greed, which he says is a “being,” a “value” that many people in the U.S. and Western Hemisphere don’t understand. What if greed had a “cost”; what if one had to “pay” something for greed? Malcolm says that "we live in a culture where greed is kind of celebrated and is expected on a certain level —turn on the television and everyone wants more of everything, bigger this, bigger that, more; our culture is consumer based." Both agree that greed is a characteristic of the wasicu and the windigo (the one who is never satisfied). Tiokasin says there is no ceremony to accept greed intelligently. Greed is a being. How is it treating you and how are you treating it?
Production Credits:
Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), Host and Executive Producer
Liz Hill (Red Lake Ojibwe), Producer
Malcolm Burn, Studio Engineer, Radio Kingston, WKNY 1490 AM and 107.9 FM, Kingston, NY
Manuel Blas, Engineer, Radio Kingston, WKNY 1490 AM and 107.9 FM, Kingston, NY
Tiokasin Ghosthorse, Audio Editor
Kevin Richardson, Podcast Editor
Music Selections:
1. Song Title: Tahi Roots Mix (First Voices Radio Theme Song)
Artist: Moana and the Moa Hunters
Album: Tahi (1993)
Label: Southside Records (Australia and New Zealand)
(00:00:22)
2. Song Title: Lakota Calling Song / Dream Song / Doing Song / Being Song
Artist: Lakota
Album: N/A
Label: N/A
(00:35:35)
3. Song Title: Everybody Wants to Rule the World
Artist: Tears for Fears
Album: Everybody Wants to Rule the World (1985)
Label: Phonogram / Mercury
(00:45:40)
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About First Voices Radio:
”First Voices Radio,” now in its 31st year on the air, is an internationally syndicated one-hour radio program originating from and heard weekly on Radio Kingston WKNY 1490 AM and 107.9 FM in Kingston, New York. Hosted by Tiokasin Ghosthorse (Lakota), who is the show's Founder and Executive Producer, "First Voices Radio" explores global topics and issues of critical importance to the preservation and protection of Mother Earth presented in the voices and from the perspective of the original peoples of the world.
